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Fruit Jars ~ Pacific Glass Works ~ Root and Hollieanna ~ Color Runs and Info

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Winter's the perfect time to take out your antique bottles and fruit jars and play with them.  Jeff Klingler shares his photos of some of his Root jars, and his Pacific Glass Works jars.

To see more photos of these, and read more info about them, as well as see 100's of other great jars, head over to this very active fruit jar discussion group -- it's definitely NOT just Ball jars, even though it's called the Ball Jar Collectors Community Center.

Jars in the above photo: 'STAR & CRESCENT' ~ 'THE ALSTON' ~ 'SEALFAST SOLD BY - LIMA OHIO' ~ 'THE VAN VLIET JAR OF 1881' ~ 'RUBY SPECIAL'

Left to right:
[See the entire Root jars post/thread here.]
  • nice OLIVE GREEN half gallon, my best color. (ex Shirley McDonald collection)
  • qt size GREEN (and nothing but GREEN)
  • pt size Lighter Olive Green... almost an Apple Green color
  • qt AQUA... a more Aqua/Blue color
  • qt size Olive Green (ex Marty Troxell collection)
  • half gallon Lighter Green

Rootin' Around

A little Root Glass Co. history (source):


The Root Glass Company of Terre Haute Indiana was named after its president Chapman J. Root and made Root fruit jars from 1906 to 1909. In 1909 the company (at least the fruit jar part) was purchased by the Ball Brothers Glass Manufacturing Company. The jar plant was closed in 1913. Owens-Illinois acquired another part of the Root company and operated one of the company's plants until 1932.
An icon of American history, the famous Coca-Cola bottle, is also an interesting historical side note to the Root story. In 1916 the Coca-Cola company asked various bottle manufacturers to design a unique Coca-Cola bottle. Almost a dozen designs were submitted and studied by a committee of seven bottlers, who met at the 1916 bottlers’ convention in Atlanta. The committee’s final selection was a design submitted by the Root Glass Company of Terre Haute, Indiana. The well-known hobble skirt Coke bottle. 
A somewhat scarce jar made by the Root company is the Hollieanna Mason. Judging by its more modern design it was probably produced later than the Root mason (by the Owens/Illinois division of the company.) The jar itself was produced for a grocery store concern called Oakley.

It's a MASH-UP


 From the Terre Haute Postcards website:
On August 9th, 1909, Hollie N. Oakley of Terre Haute opened his first grocery store at 1105 Wabash Avenue. The store was a success and Oakley's soon became the largest independent grocery chain in Indiana. By 1920, there were 33 Oakley stores in and around the Wabash Valley alone.

Here are some great old photos from the Wabash Valley Digital Memory Project website.


Here's Oakley's grocery store in Terre Haute Indiana, circa 1909.


A later version of an Oakley's Grocery store, still no mention of Hollieanna as a brand name.

HOLLIEANNA -- What a great jar. I had to look up the history, and found a little info about Hollieana / Oakley / grocery. What I didn't find is any reference to or pix of Oakley or Hollieanna products.

The Hollieanna name is a cute mash-up of the Oakley's first names, Hollie and Anna. They have a foundation which has a website:
The Oakley Foundation is a private foundation established in 1954 to promote religious, educational and charitable endeavors, particularly in the states of Indiana, Illinois, and Florida.
The history on the site is extremely brief. Here's one tidbit, referring to the “Follow Your Food” exhibit at the Terre Haute Children’s Museum :

The Hollie and Anna Oakley Foundation’s sponsorship of the exhibit honors the Oakley family’s history in the grocery business and the importance of agriculture to Indiana’s economy.



I also found a shopping center in Winterpark, Florida named HOLLIEANNA that has a Publix Grocery store. That led me to Jeff Perry's public Linked In listing that tells us:

Oakley is a family business that owns and operates commercial real estate in west central Indiana, and central Florida. We were incorporated in 1929 and operated 99 grocery stores.  
The company eventually sold the grocery business to Kroger, but retained some real estate. This real estate forms the base of our operations now. Over the years we have re-developed sites in both Indiana and Florida, including the Hollieanna Center Publix Re-build. 

And now we leave Indiana and head not for Florida, but for the wild west. 
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Go West, Young Man -- Pacific Glass Works


Left to Right (with Red Book #10 numbers)
[See the entire Pacific Glass jars post/thread here.]
  • RB637-1    a very scarce PACKED BY COLLINS WHEATON & LUHRS S.F. (ex Randy Hoffman collection)
  • RB2896     a great Apple Green half gallon PACIFIC GLASS WORKS SAN FRANCISCO (ex Alex Kerr, Al Vignon, Tom Schumm, Bill Burgess collections)
  • RB796      DODGE SWEENEY & Co's CALIFORNIA BUTTER (ex Randy Hoffman collection)
  • RB2896     qt size Apple Green PACIFIC GLASS WORKS SAN FRANCISCO
  • RB2553    qt size SAN FRANCISCO GLASS WORKS (ex Bill Dudley collection)
  • RB2553    half gallon SAN FRANCISCO GLASS WORKS 
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EXTRA! EXTRA! Read all about it!





Here's a morbid article about an accident at the Pacific Glass Works that was published un the New York Time on November 30, 1900. (link) -- The San Francisco paper covered it in more depth, including gruesome illustrations. Read it here -- http://www.sfweekly.com/2012-08-15/news/football-san-francisco-and-pacific-glass-works-history-sports-tragedy/full/

(Click article image to enlarge)

Exterior view of earthquake damage at the Pacific Glass Works Company, San Francisco, 1906
Photo from USC Library


Pacific Glass Works had more bad luck due to the 1906 earthquake.

Want to learn more about Pacific Glass Works? Read lots of articles discussing the history and the historic bottles and jars made by PGW on the Western Bitters blog. Tons of info, and photos.

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Antique Bottle Clubs Using Social Media to Promote Collecting Hobby

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Screen shots of some of our recent Facebook posts.

FinBotClub Using Social Media to Promote the Antique Bottle Collecting Hobby

Well, we finally passed the 200 'Likes' mark on our Facebook page. Thanks and welcome to all of you!  Now we're trying to hit that 300 mark, so to you, our dear readers, if you haven't 'liked' our page yet, please do.

Facebook is just one of the many online 'voices' available to help create a larger online presence. Clubs can also use Twitter, You Tube videos, e-newsletters and blogs, flickr.com, tumblr.com, google+, and of course, have a website.

All of these options are available to clubs and individuals for free.

Well, we do need to spend our time, but that's always been an important part of participating in a hobby.

Let's all try to find some time to spread the word about how interesting and fun our hobby is. We'll help grow the hobby, and continue to find new collectors.
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Here are several more screen shots of what we've been sharing on our Facebook page recently. 

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Columbus OH Bottle Show Saturday Feb. 16 2013 @ State Fairgrounds

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Columbus OH Bottle & Insulator Show Saturday Feb. 16 2013 @ State Fairgrounds

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The highly anticipated Columbus Bottle & Insulator Show is on Saturday, February 16, 2013 -- the first Ohio bottle show of the year! It's BIG -- it's FUN -- you don't want to miss it! Over 130 dealers/150+ tables, with 1,000's of bottles and advertising treasures!

You can read some show reports from previous year's shows --  with lots of pix!

COLUMBUS, OHIO ANTIQUE BOTTLE SHOW DETAILS



  • Show Date -- Saturday February 16, 2013
  • Show Time -- 9 AM - 2:00 PM
  • Public Admission -- $3 -- Fairgrounds Parking is $5 -- plenty of parking available.

    • Early Bird Adm. -- 7 AM - 9AM -- $25 -- You get in there while the dealers are setting up!
    • The show is in the RHODES CENTER building at the Ohio State Fairgrounds complex.
    • The Ohio State Fairgrounds is located at 717 E. 17th Av -- go west off I-71 at Exit 111
    • For driving directions and fairgrounds maps, click here
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  • The showroom is huge, well lighted, and has wide aisles for shoppers, with plenty of space between the tables for the dealers.
  • Restrooms in the heated building.
  • Food concession provided by the fairgrounds ($$).
  • Link to the weather forecast for Columbus Ohio.

    • Shoppers Bonus! The famous Scott Antique Show  is also the same day, also in the Ohio State Fairgrounds Complex, so you can spend the day and hit both great shows, and finds tons of treasures.
    • Just walk across the street, do not move your car, or you will have to pay for parking again.

    • Extra-early Bird Bonus! There will be a fun Hospitality Party on Friday night from 7pm to 10pm (or later -- it's a lot of fun!).
    • At the Baymont Inn Hotel -- complimentary food and drinks, and lots of good visiting with your fellow collector/dealers.
    • Ask for the discounted show rate for your room, but it's only good until Jan. 28th, so call and book your room NOW!
    • Hotel website link  and phone: 614-848-9696
    Call for your tables NOW!

    Co-Show Chairmen:



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    Monkey Business ~ Newsletter News

    Good news. Our email newsletter subscription list has grown to the point where we've decided to go with a professional email newsletter delivery service.

    We've chosen MailChimp because they have such a cute name and mascot.



    And look at all these great monkeys and bottles advertising images. Who could resist?


    Seriously, MailChimp seems to be simple, fits our club's needs, and is free. There are other companies, but I had to pick one. So this is it.

    If you have already been getting our email newsletters, you don't have to do anything. Your subscription has automatically been transferred to the new service.

    As always, your email address remains private. We will never share or sell our list.

    New subscribers need to enter their email address into this Subscription Form here.

    Subscriptions are FREE. All you need to do is enter your addy. That's it.

    If you receive a newsletter email, and decide to break my heart and unsubscribe, just hit the link in the email.



    What's in the newsletters?

    The newsletters will be, and have always been, a compilation of the recent blog posts. This saves you having to check the website all the time to see what's been posted. You can still come to the website anytime to read the articles and access the archives.

    Newsletters will be weekly, going out at 8am on Saturday mornings  MONTHLY, going out @8am on the first of each month. For those who know me (Marianne), you'll know I am not a morning person, so this is one of the advantages of automating.

    Newsletters will have the 5 most recent articles (from the website), upcoming bottle show info, and hobby updates. Occasionally there may be a special edition of the newsletter with info that is not on the website. 

    Pass it on! Spread the news!

    Please tell your friends to subscribe.

    And go ahead and forward the newsletters on, too. It's all about promoting the bottle collecting hobby by sharing info, club and show news, and resource links.

    The Write Stuff

    • We're always looking for content. 
    • Send in your show reports, photos, club news, or articles. 
    • We'll credit you, of course, and link to your website.
    • If there's an article written about you somewhere online, send us the link.
    • If you have an article published, send us the link.
    • If it's something published in print, send us the info. Try to send a photo, too. 
    • Please send us jpg photos and html/text content, no pdf's.
    • Links to a hosted pdf are fine.

    Just email me if you have any questions -- finbotclub@gmail.com


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    Sad News ~ RIP Shirley Curtis, Wife of Fred Curtis

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    I am sad to say that long-time FABC club member Shirley Ann Curtis has passed. Shirley was a smiling presence at all of our club events for so many years. She will be greatly missed and long remembered.

    Our deepest sympathies and condolences go out to Shirley's husband Fred Curtis, their daughter Gail, and all their families and friends. We will keep them in our hearts and thoughts at this difficult time.

    Fred Curtis has been our bottle show chairman for many years.

    The family will have visitation times from 2-4 & 6-8 at the funeral home on Tuesday Feb. 19, 2013.

    Directions and details: www.kirkpatrickbehnke.com

    A memorial service will be held at a future date.

    Online condolences may be sent to the family via this link: www.kirkpatrickbehnke.com

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    Shirley Ann Curtis, 67, of Findlay, died at 10:40 p.m. on Friday, February 15, 2013 at Birchaven Village.

    She was born in Findlay on April 26, 1945 to the late Homer F. and Doris J. (Opper) Bartchlett. She married Fred Curtis on November 26, 1972 at Trinity Episcopal Church with Rev. Elfin officiating and Fred survives, along with their daughter, Gail Anne Curtis of Toledo, Ohio.

    Shirley is also survived by three brothers, Tom (Pauline) Bartchlett, David (Julie) Bartchlett, Wayne Bartchlett, all of Findlay and two sisters, Susie Turner of Findlay and Carol (Dan) Speelman, of North Carolina. She was preceded in death by two brothers, Ray Bartchlett and Eugene Bartchlett, and two sisters, Barbara Fleming and Mary Lou Stewart.

    Shirley was last employed in the Deli Department at the former Foodtown Store and then the Kroger Store on Sixth Street slicing meat and cheese for all her customers, whom she dearly missed after her retirement.

    Visitation will be held at Kirkpatrick-Behnke Funeral Home from 2-4 and 6-8 p.m. on Tuesday, February 19, 2013.

    A memorial service will be held at a later date at Trinity Memorial Gardens.

    Memorials may be made to Trinity Baptist Church.

    Online condolences may be sent to the family via this link: www.kirkpatrickbehnke.com
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    Naughty History of Valentine's Meat Juice in the Little Amber Bottle - Happy St. Valentine's Day, Antique Bottle Collectors

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    You don't need teeth to enjoy Valentine's Meat Juice!


    Aah, love. 

    By Marianne Dow


    Valentine's Meat Juice has true love as it's raison d'être. Mann S. Valentine Jr. was desperate to save his dying wife, Maria.

    For weeks she had been unable to retain any nourishment, and Mann was distraught while watching his wife starve to death. Physicians could do no more. Valentine became persuaded that she needed juice extracted from meat, with its “strength-giving properties.”

    He went down to his basement with a chemistry set, and with sheer determination and rudimentary knowledge from college courses, he worked to concoct a mixture to revive his wife. He worked night after night in the cellar, and on New Year’s Eve 1870, he administered to Maria the first batch of meat juice.

    Mann’s elixir worked, and Maria recovered.

    [Info from this Richmondmagazine.com article by Harry Kolatz Jr.]

    The juice reached its greatest success and acknowledgment in 1881 when President Garfield said, after wounded from a bullet in an assassination attempt, that he breakfasted on Valentine’s Meat Juice along with toast and poached egg to get better.

    In Mann's own words:






    Read the full text of the advertising booklet pictured above, here. It is mostly testimonials. No photos.

    A Valentine's Meat Juice bottle sits on a shelf at Boston's new Massachusetts General Hospital medical history museum (link). [Photo source]




    The Valentine Meat Juice Company used 15 to 20 THOUSAND pounds of flesh from beef cattle a day to make the juice. 

    Bottle collector Ed Faulkner shared this memory:
    "One of the Richmond club members once talked to someone whose father had worked at the plant that produced the meat juice. It appears that there was always plenty of "squeezed" beef after the juice was removed & it was available to employees for free. Although they were dirt poor, the man said, they always had beef on the table!"






    LOVE Potion -- It's The Oldest Profession

    Valentine's Meat Juice came in this neat little amber bottle. It is pretty common,  and of little interest to bottle collectors, but it has another interesting and rather sordid history, as it turns out. It's connected with "The Oldest Profession", if you know what I mean. No, not butcher.


    What bottle collectors will find interesting is that archaelogical digs around brothels found a great many VMJ bottles.
    Prostitutes ate better and dressed better than their working class contemporaries. Some of their purchasing power, however, was spent on proprietary medicines such as Valentine's Meat Juice, promoted as a cure for sexually transmitted diseases, aka social diseases. "

    But wait, there's more...

    There's even more sordidness associated with this little bottle...
    Valentine's Meat Juice figured prominently in a famous murder case. ''The Case of Mrs. Maybrick'' was written about in The Elements of Murder By John Emsley.

    Apparently the Mrs. killed her husband by poisoning his Valentine's Meat Juice with arsenic!

    And I used to think it was such a cute little bottle -- who knew? Well...Happy Valentine's Day, anyway!

    ALL BOTTLED UP


    It's about 3" tall, and embossed VALENTINE'S MEAT JUICE. Much harder to find with the paper labels:




    Some other Valentine's Meat Juice collectibles:

    Magazine ad

    Dose glass

    Chemist's invoice (source)


    Mann S. Valentine

    The Valentine Museum

    According to the Valentine Museum, now known as the Valentine Richmond History Center (Virginia), Mann S. Valentine, Jr. (1824-1893), the museum's founder, made his fortune with the creation and production of Valentine's Meat Juice, a health tonic made from pure beef juice.


    Mann shared his love of history with his brother, renowned sculptor Edward V. Valentine. Mann laid the foundation for the museum in 1892; when he died in 1893, he provided the original bequest for the Valentine Museum, leaving his personal collection of art and artifacts and the 1812 Wickham House.

    The Valentine Museum, the first private museum in the City of Richmond, opened in 1898; Edward Valentine served as its first president from its opening until his death in 1930. In his own will, he left an incredible collection of his sculpture, papers, furniture and memorabilia to the museum that still bears his family name.

    While alive, The Valentine's Meat Juice success provided Mann S. Valentine with more than enough money to do what he wanted. He collected art, and his home was a gathering place for artists.

    Here are some photos from the museums collection that show Mann S. Valentine posing as different emotions. I end with these as I think it shows he was an interesting and emotional man, and it's easy to see how his love for his wife would have sent him down into his basement to create the magic potion that would keep her alive.

    See more from this series of photos on the Richmond Museum's website here.





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    Getzbest Fruit Jar for Getz Bros of San Francisco

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    Rare Getzbest Fruit Jar for Getz Bros of San Francisco

    Here's another one of Jeff Klingler's rare California fruit jars. This time he's sharing his GETZBEST jar, RB#1105-2, circa late 1920s.

    By the triangle IPG mark, we know that this jar was made for the Getz Bros. by the Illinois Pacific Glass Corporation, circa 1926-1930. (Thanks to Alice Creswick and all the other jar historians.) 

    The Getz Bros. company is still in business, as the Getz Group, so history on the company was easy to find. And google and ebay turned up some images of vintage ephemera, billheads, labels, etc.

    The glass company mark info was documented in a 2005 article in the FOHBC's Bottles and Extras:






    From the Getz Group website:
    The origins of the company go back to 1852 when Joseph & Max Getz emigrated from Eastern Europe to the United States. They started with a small general store in Northern California by selling local products in and around the San Francisco area. 
    Later they started exporting goods to China and other Asian countries. Business expanded and around the turn of the century, Getz opened offices in Shanghai and then Hong Kong and South-East-Asia. In 1917, Getz Bros. & Co. (Singapore), Pte. Ltd. was established as a subsidiary of Getz Bros. & Co., Inc. under the Getz Bros. More followed and now it's major offices cover the whole of the Asia-Pacific region.
    Over the years, Getz grew in size and reputation with mergers and acquisitions. New ventures and businesses developed because of growing collaboration with business partners. Today, Getz focuses on several core businesses in international trading, marketing and manufacturing. 


    Ads from Singapore newspapers, 1929





    Check out The Label Man to buy some vintage GETZBEST paper labels like these:






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    Uncle Sam and Shakespeare vs Mad Men ~ Vintage Whiskey and Beer Advertising

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    On Facebook I posted a link to this great blog called  BOTTLES, BOOZE, AND BACK STORIES by Jack Sullivan. Read his Uncle Sam in Advertising post.



    I really enjoyed Jack'spost called "Merchandising Shakespeare", showing several antique Victorian advertising tradecards from whiskey and beer companies that used the Bard to peddle and pitch their wares.

    Says Jack:
    I can imagine Shakespeare altering his own famous line about lawyers in Henry VI, Part 2.  It would become:
    “First let’s kill all the ad men.”
    Be sure to explore the BOTTLES, BOOZE, AND BACK STORIES archives for lots of bottles and advertising info and images.


    Or perhaps you'd rather read Shakespeare's lines that mention drinking? Then check out The Boozy Bard (read some pages on Amazon).
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    Bottle Collectors Save Daylight and Dig Spring! Happy Easter!

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    "An extra yawn one morning in the springtime, an extra snooze one night in the autumn is all that we ask in return for dazzling gifts. We borrow an hour one night in April; we pay it back with golden interest five months later." - Winston Churchill

    "In the Spring a young man's fancy lightly turns to thoughts of... digging bottles." - With apologies to Tennyson
    "A narrow neck keeps the bottle from being emptied in one swig." - Old Irish Proverb

    "Depend on the rabbit's foot if you will, but remember it didn't work for the rabbit." - R.E. Shay
    Happy St Patrick's Day and Happy Easter to all you Antique Bottle Lovers!
    • 2013 Dates:
    • March 10 - Daylight Savings Time starts.
    • March 17 - St. Patrick's Day
    • March 20 - Spring springs ~ yay!
    • March 31 - Easter

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    Antique Bottles, Fruit Jars News, Photos - February 2013

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    The Findlay Bottle Club's Facebook page is on its way to 300 ''Likes''. Please be sure to go to our page and click that LIKE button. And tell your Facebook bottle-collecting friends, too.



    What can you do on our page, besides read our blog articles?

    • You can post photos of bottles you want to show off or find out more about. 
    • You can post your Bottles Wants, Needs and Desires in our new WANTED section. Please stay on topic; antique bottle related ONLY (bottles, jars, advertising, and go-withs). 

    Not everything on our blog goes to Facebook; not everything on Facebook makes it to our newsletters. If you're a bottle collector, you owe it to yourself to ''like'' our Facebook page, and subscribe to our free email newsletter.

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    Here's the afore-mentioned Potpourri of Antique Bottles and Fruit Jars News and Photos for February 2013
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    • Joe Terry shared an old photo of an early family business: John Terry's Lunch and Candy Kitchen with great old Coca Cola signs.




















    • January 2013 Muncie Fruit Jar Show -- Here's a fantastic show report by Joe Coulson with lots of great photos. Just click here to pop up the pdf.  




    • Here's the Muncie Fruit Jar Club's February GLASS CHATTER newsletter. Articles about jars -- JAR-ticles -- and lots of great jar photos by Joe Coulson of their club meeting's Show and Tell session. Click here to pop up the pdf.  






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    New Reproduction Jars = Scary News for Antique Fruit Jar Collectors

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    Breaking News About New Repro Jars 


    Larry Munson wrote to alert us of some new reproduction jars he picked up recently. He says he tries to buy an example of every repro jar he comes across for documentation and education purposes. His collection numbers about 80 jars now, many of which he says must have been made in small batches as he never saw them for sale or heard of them again. 

    This new batch contains some that Larry says:

    "...are very well done... the Baker & the Millville are the best done. With these surfacing it will be a whole new ballgame in what is coming. That is why I think we all need to let as many people know as possible. When some of these start surfacing as shows & flea mkt's people are going to get burned, when they think they found a rare jar in a different color."

    The seller said that he had the molds made from his own examples of these scarce jars. Let's hope that this is another case of a small batch, and these babies don't flood the market. 


    The 8 new jars to watch for are:




    • YEOMAN'S FRUIT JAR -- in quart & half gallon (quart not pictured)
    • JOSHUA WRIGHT --  half  gallon
    • WHITALL'S PATENT MILLVILLE ATMOSPHERIC --  square shoulder quart
    • POTTER & BODINE  -- wax seal quart
    • BAKER PATENT FRUIT JAR  -- quart
    • GRIFFINS PATENT 1862  -- quart -- in Amber & Cobalt. (Amber not pixtured.)

    Also a can:

    • SPRATS IMPROVED PATENT -- Tin can in quart & half gallon (quart not pictured.)

    [Click the photos to enlarge.]


    Larry will be sending more pix of his reproduction jar collection, and I will add them later. Here's a video of Larry talking about another repro jar:


    [Newsletter readers may need to click through to view the video.}


    Here is info on other known reproduction canning jars:
    [Updated April 15 2013]

    Here are 3 shots of Larry Munson's repro jars display. He has close to 100, and estimates that there are about 15 more listed in the Redbook that he doesn't have yet. (Click the pix to enlarge.)




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    Current Top Ebay Antique Bottles and Fruit Jars

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    All BOTTLES

    See the Current Top 20 completed eBay Bottles auctions for this past week here:  http://www.collectorsweekly.com/bottles/auctions?completed

    The following lists and screen shots show the top bottles and prices for 4-08-2011.


    1) Bundaberg Rum M.d.c Bottle - $7,343 - (#180644802128)

    2) Rare Speas U-savit Paneled Half Gallon Jar W/zinc Lid - $765 - (#190516330413)

    3) The Elusive "eagle Rare 15 Year Old" Bourbon Whiskey - $755 - (#190516106093)

    4) Ginger Beer Victoria Bc Chris Morley British Columbia - $585 - (#300541510604)

    5) Double Eagle With Banner Flask Dark Amber, Excellent - $566 - (#150581460856)

    6) Minnehaha Philadelphia Pottery Soda , Liquor Bottle - $559 - (#300541504219)

    7) National Bitters Ear Of Corn Bottle - $530 - (#220762882521)

    8) Rnd Quart Eldredge Chatham Cape Cod Ma Mass Milk Bottle - $514 - (#160566066080)

    9) Fabulous 1860's Horseman Hound Quart Whiskey Flask - $464 - (#190516345061)

    10) Buhrers Gentian Bitters - Large Aqua Cleveland Bottle - $461 - (#230601884203)

    11) Union No 1 Fruit Jar With Lugs Ex Rare - $418 - (#180645647397)

    12) Old Forge Farm Spring Grove Pa Milk Bottle Quart 2 Cows - $417 - (#160564819352)

    13) General Taylor/capt.bragg Historical Flask Cannon O.p. - $407 - (#300541113823)

    14) Vintage Cranmer's Dairy Baby Face Milk Bottle Butler Pa - $405 - (#330547206903)

    15) Union Whiskey Civil War Bottle Wm Frank & Sons 1860s - $392 - (#110667709159)

    16) Killer Colored Carters Cone Ink-rare Lt. Forest Green - $357 - (#260760636112)

    17) A Quality Early Mallet English Black Glass Bottle 1700 - $349 - (#190515912247)

    18) South Carolina Dispensary Bottle Quart Cylinder Tree - $346 - (#320677368776)

    19) Quart, Pint And Half-3 Iron Pontil Scroll Flasks W Lips - $333 - (#290550129823)

    20) "jl Leavitt / Boston" Stoddard Ale /medicine...pontil - $330 - (#320677374250)
     



    Top 20 completed eBay Soda and Mineral Water Bottles here: http://www.collectorsweekly.com/bottles/soda-and-seltzer/auctions?completed


    [The lists and screen shots show the top bottles and prices for 4-08-2011.]



    1) Minnehaha Philadelphia Pottery Soda , Liquor Bottle - $559 - (#300541504219)

    2) Old Forge Farm Spring Grove Pa Milk Bottle Quart 2 Cows - $417 - (#160564819352)

    3) ~i/p~green~a. J. Miller’s/mineral Water/chicago~ - $318 - (#250795229823)

    4) Ginger Beer Victoria Bc Crystal Spring Water Supply - $305 - (#300541508345)

    5) Lot 5 Soda Fountain Syrup Bottle Grape Smash Root Beer - $279 - (#140529776176)

    6) ~franz Schonwald/premium/mineral Water/chicago Ill~ - $209 - (#250795226605)

    7) Western Territory Soda, T.j Tanner Port Townsend W.t - $185 - (#300542450548)

    8) Cafe Bar Soda Syphon Siphon Bottle Whisky Weltz France - $175 - (#220765154475)

    9) Nice R Ritter Cincinnati Ohio Pontil Mineral Water - $170 - (#270727794042)

    10) 1943 Kidd's Cola Acl Soda Bottle/ Tulsa,okla - $168 - (#130502303450)

    11) Bar Soda Syphon Siphon Bottle Whisky Cooke Kettering - $163 - (#220765162306)

    12) Spring Garden Glass Works Half Pint Historical Flask - $163 - (#220760520956)

    13) Old Bar Soda Syphon Siphon Bottle Whisky Bournemouth - $158 - (#220765141181)

    14) Gem Mint Undug Cf Riley (eagle) Hutch Soda From Ca. - $157 - (#150583016561)

    15) St.louis,mo.civil War Era Pontiled Blob Soda Bottle - $152 - (#120704231613)

    16) Graphite Pontil Green Beards Mineral Water Nice - $142 - (#300541285868)

    17) Small London Dark Aqua Hybrid T.brewster Mineral Water - $133 - (#370497259932)

    18) Rare Parsons Kansas Blob Top Soda Bottle - $130 - (#250794899419)

    19) 1910 Orange Crush Pittsfield Mass. Soda Pop Bottle 28oz - $125 - (#260760741198)

    20) Bolen Waack & Co New York Mineral Spring Water Bottle - $115 - (#230602290686)
     


    Top 20 completed eBay Milk Bottles auctions this past week here: http://www.collectorsweekly.com/bottles/milk/auctions?completed

    [The lists and screen shots show the top bottles and prices for 4-08-2011.]

    1) Rnd Quart Eldredge Chatham Cape Cod Ma Mass Milk Bottle - $514 - (#160566066080)

    2) Rare E. Pepperell Ma. Dr. F A Davis 1/2 Pt Milk Bottle - $450 - (#170621815739)

    3) Old Forge Farm Spring Grove Pa Milk Bottle Quart 2 Cows - $417 - (#160564819352)

    4) Vintage Cranmer's Dairy Baby Face Milk Bottle Butler Pa - $405 - (#330547206903)

    5) Old Rd Quart Warren East Manchester Ma Mass Milk Bottle - $309 - (#160566067966)

    6) Yasgur Farms Bethel Ny Qt Milk Bottle Woodstock Era - $307 - (#150584137429)

    7) Aledo Ill ..cream Separator Qt Milk. Maple Street Dairy - $225 - (#130502470629)

    8) Ordway’s Trpq Milk Bottle Concord Nh N.h. Htf - $203 - (#260761250085)

    9) Round Quart Melendy & Son Pepperell Ma Mass Milk Bottle - $155 - (#160566067208)

    10) Blueridge Creamery Luray Va 3cent Store Milk Bottle Nm - $126 - (#110666878681)

    11) Rare Crisfield Oyster Co Boston Oysters Jar Milk Bottle - $118 - (#130502786126)

    12) Vintage Gal. Milk Bottle Boyd Dairy, New Castle, Pa. - $114 - (#320678258740)

    13) 1/4 Pt Weber Dairy Co Joliet Ill, Il Milk Bottle - $114 - (#280650752477)

    14) Rare~trpq-parkdale Dairy Washington, Nj (nice Graphics) - $105 - (#350450902666)

    15) Hf Pt Seven Gates Farm Milk Bottle No Tisbury Mass - $104 - (#310308154783)

    16) Sky-royal Dairy Front Royal, Va 3c Deposit Milk Bottle - $103 - (#110666878675)

    17) Great 1st Edition California Milk Bottles & Dairy Book - $103 - (#310308341860)

    18) Milk Bottle Quart R &s Spring City Pa - $98 - (#120704751245)

    19) 1/4 Pint Makawao Maui Hawaii Milk Dairy Bottle - $96 - (#330549126148)

    20) Rnd Qt Ferguson High St. Topsfield Ma Mass Milk Bottle - $95 - (#160566066289)



    Top 20 completed eBay Fruit Jars auctions this past week here: http://www.collectorsweekly.com/bottles/fruit-jars/auctions?completed

    [The lists and screen shots show the top bottles and prices for 4-08-2011.]

    1) Union No 1 Fruit Jar With Lugs Ex Rare - $418 - (#180645647397)

    2) Clarke Fruit Jar Co Cleveland Scarce Small Size Pint+ - $302 - (#350451626362)

    3) Sparkling Golden Amber Lightning Canning Fruit Jar - $263 - (#200591501336)

    4) Red Wing Mason Stoneware Fruit Jar Dated 1899 - $235 - (#290549908567)

    5) Redwing Mason Stoneware Fruit Jar 1899 - $231 - (#120704527179)

    6) **rare** All Original Pint Blue Mason 1858 Fruit Jar - $168 - (#110667205167)

    7) Old Redwing Mason Fruit Jar - $150 - (#200590840857)

    8) Antique Majolica Pottery Jam Jelly Jar Dish Butter Bowl - $144 - (#180646629984)

    9) Miniature Ball Mason Jar Salesman Sample Antique Nr - $127 - (#130502236732)

    10) Stoneware Fruit Jar American Bottle Co Middlebury Oh - $108 - (#330548031789)

    11) **rare** Sky Blue H/g Kerr Self Sealing Mason Fruit Jar - $103 - (#110667176907)

    12) **rare** The Pearl Immerser Lid/ Bettsband Hg Fruit Jar - $103 - (#110667184083)

    13) Depression Green Optic Glass Jam Jelly Dish Jar Spoon - $103 - (#350451373567)

    14) Pint Independent Brand Canning Jar W Glass Lid - $101 - (#320676223679)

    15) Nice Crown Olive & Amber Qt. Fruit Jar - $91 - (#230601597105)

    16) Nice Pint Amber Globe Fruit Jar - $90 - (#180647055516)

    17) Rare Half Pint Australia Melbourne Mawson Jam Fruit Jar - $88 - (#230602658082)

    18) Look Old Mason Jar With Old Us Silver Coins Wow - $87 - (#140529298684)

    19) Fantastic Citron " Perfect Seal" Qt. Fruit Jar - $87 - (#230601603619)

    20) Bulk Case Of 60 12 Pk 720 Ball Regular Canning Jar Lids - $86 - (#120705916068)

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    Vintage Aunt Sally's Brand Pasadena California Jar ~ What It Isn't

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    I can't find my Aunt Sally!

    Here's a great little embossed product jar that we picked up recently. The Redbook #10 Fruit Jar guide lists it as #175 -- in a 16 oz/pint size. Ours is an 8-1/4 oz/ 1/2pt size, 4-1/2" tall, small 2-1/4" mouth. Several fruit jar collectors saw my jar at the 2013 Muncie fruit jar get together, and commented that they hadn't ever seen this jar.

    Naturally, I went online and tried to find out more about Aunt Sally's Brand / Pasadena California. Who was she? What was sold in this jar?

    Alas, there was no information to be found, anywhere. Not even an old ebay sale of another jar. I could try local city directories, which would just confirm time/place. I'm hoping for a little company history and to find out who Sally was. It seems I shall have to wait until someone posts something someday.



    And there's more mystery about the maker of the jar itself. The glass company mark, on the heel, is an embossed 'Co' monogram, with a small o inside a C. We showed it to the knowledgeable collectors at Muncie, and I researched that mark online, and again, not found. The base just has an embossed number 8.

    She Contains Multitudes

    My apologies to Walt Whitman... a google search on the name Aunt Sally certainly had multitudes of responses. For example:
      1. Aunt Sally / noun, Chiefly British / a person who is a ready target for criticism or focus for disputation.
      2. "The term 'Aunt Sally' is used as a political idiom, indicating a false adversary or straw man, set up for the sole purpose of attracting negative attention and wasting an opponent's energy."
      3. "an object of criticism or contention; especially : one that is set up to invite criticism or be easily refuted"
      4. Chaucer's The Canterbury Tales introduction as translated by David Wright---"In the fourteenth century the institution of marriage was an accepted Aunt Sally:..."

      British word historian Michael Quinion writes on World Wide Words:
      "The aunt part of the name may refer to an old black woman, a term employed both by blacks and whites in the USA from the eighteenth century onwards but also known in London; aunt could also be applied familiarly to any elderly woman. 
      The direct influence, according to J Redding Ware’s Passing English of the Victorian Era of 1909, may have been an 1820s black-face doll that derived from a low-life character named Black Sal who had been created by Pierce Egan in his series Life In London of 1821."

      Mathematically Speaking



      "My Dear Aunt Sally" is also part of the mnemonic PEMDAS, used to help remember the order of operations in algebraic equations.   
      • PEMDAS = Please Excuse MDear Aunt Sally = Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction



      And then there's those gooey yummy Southern pralines:


      My Aunt Sally of Pasadena is NOT the Aunt Sally's of New Orleans, maker of world famous pecan pralines. 

      Countless Other Aunt Sally's

      Oh boy, did I find lots and lots of other Aunt Sally's. Here's a small accounting of just some of the myriad Aunt Sally's who aren't mine!

      She isn't a game:

      Aunt Sally rose to general popularity in Victorian times as a vulgar misogynist/racist fairground pursuit.

      The game of Aunt Sally goes back at least as far as the 17th Century. It may have been introduced by Royalist soldiers during the English Civil War when Charles set up court in Oxford.

      The game [is still] played in British pubs and fairgrounds [with competitive leagues]. An Aunt Sally was originally a figurine head of an old woman with a clay pipe in her mouth, or subsequently a ball on a stick. The object was for players to throw sticks at the head in order to break the pipe. The game bears some resemblance to skittles. 



      Aunt Sally ring toss game and modern fantasy sign. Available on ebay, etc.

      She isn't a vintage household product:


      Late 1800's Antique trade card for Aunt Sally Starch, Baking Powder, and Blueing.


      1930s-1940s era food and cleaning products labeled Aunt Sally from the Portage Wholesale Co., Wisconsin.



      She's not Tom Sawyer's Aunt, or other book, movie, or TV show character.


      She wasn't from Detroit...

      Milk bottle collectors will want to click on the above photo to enlarge it. 

      While ''Aunt Sally'' is a slang term (according to the Urban Dictionary  ) and has a wikipedia page, that's still not our Auntie.

      Hoo Doo that Voo Doo? Aunt Sally do, that's who do!


      The Numbers Have It

      According to Hoodoo in Theory and Practice by Catherine Yronwode, Aunt Sally's Policy Players Dream Book was published by Wehman Bros. in 1889. 

      Policy was an illegal lottery / numbers game, first introduced in Chicago in 1885.
      "A curiosity of hoodoo magic for gambling luck, Aunt Sally's Policy Players Dream Book consists of nine separate alphabetical lists of objects and situations found in dreams with interpretations and lucky numbers for playing policy, an illegal (and now obsolete) lottery once popular in the black community.
      "Dream books -- of which Aunt Sally's Policy Players Dream Book is by far the best-known -- are part of the African-American hoodoo tradition. They link dream images (e.g. dream of a cook or dream of a locomotive) to divinatory meanings (e.g. "you will receive a letter" or "beware a strange man") and they also give numbers for betting (e.g. 5-14-50 or 65-41-55)." 
      "POLICY soon spread around the country despite anti-policy laws. Eventually the use of the term 'policy' came to imply an African-American clientele, while Italian-Americans called it "the numbers"."
      "The name 'policy' may have come from a verbal code that the numbers runners (ticket sellers) used when collecting bets on the street: "Would you like to take out an insurance policy?" they asked. One could also play at a policy shop or policy office, where the bets were taken and the stakes held by policy writers."

      I dreamed of Aunt Sally with the... 


      By the 1930s several brands of "lucky dream" incense were being manufactured for the use of policy players. Burned in the bedroom before sleeping, they were designed to increase a person's chance of dreaming lucky and remembering the dream long enough to get it interpreted in numerical form. In addition, they often contained their own sets of lucky numbers, intended to be taken up by sifting through the incense ash upon awakening.

      1960's Rock'n'roll posters used Aunt Sally, too.

      I got the Aunt Sally's Blues

      From the 1920s through the 1950s, both the subject of policy gaming itself and the numerical combinations found in the dream books made their way into a number of blues songs. 

      In the most clever of these compositions, a series of dream book numbers would be substituted for crucial key words. Jim Jackson and Bumble Bee Slim (Amos Easton) both wrote songs of this type called Policy Dream Blues, which you can listen to here on the very cool website Uncensored History of the Blues.

      She's heavy, but she's not my Auntie 


      Collectors of psychedelic-era rock art posters may recognize Aunt Sally's Policy Book as the source for a 1967 poster by Rick Griffin for a concert by Big Brother & the Holding Co. and Canned Heat. 

      In the 1930s-40s a major hoodoo supplier, the King Novelty Company, not only sold reproductions of the "Dream Book" but also manufactured a line of Aunt Sally's incense and other hoodoo potions. 

      You can now buy a variety of new Aunt Sally HooDoo items at Lucky Mojo (http://www.luckymojo.com/auntsallys.html)

      Well, I may not have found out anything about Aunt Sally's Brand Pasadena California -- you do remember that little jar that started this crazy quilt of an article, don't you? -- but it sure was fun.  

      Do you know anything about MY aunt Sally?

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      The Little Keystone Coffee Jar -- Mystery Solved

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      Just a Little Java Jar
      by Marianne Dow

      Jeff Klingler's sharing this neat little bottle / jar with us this time. He pointed out that it is a variation not listed in the Red Book, which made me decide to see what I could find out about this little cutie.

      At first one would think this is a product jar, as it is embossed KEYSTONE COFFEE JAR on the puffed-out front, with a KCJ monogram on the flat back. It has a ground lip, and is about 5" tall, w/a screw-on cap. The base is embossed with 2 patent dates - 1885, and RE-PAT 1895.

      There is a Keystone Coffe Jar described as this same shape, and with the same embossing, listed in the Red Book (1390-5). However that describes a quart jar, with just the earlier patent date. (I could not find an image of a quart yet - anyone have one to share?) So, then this smaller jar is a variation of that.

      But curious minds want to know more.

      It's not from this restaurant:


      If you Google ' Keystone Coffee Jar ' you will find a few posts where collectors have found this smaller jar, and are seeking more info. I hope they read this article, because "Eureka!", I found it!

      It's NOT this:


      Your Google search will also undoubtedly lead you to the Keystone Coffee Company, in California, that has been in business with this name since... 1905. Hmmm... but this jar says 1895, so that can't be it. And indeed, it is not it.

      A deeper Boolean keyword search led me to the fantabulous resource that is Google Books. How lucky we researchers are to have image to text translation software - wow! - and Google working on scanning all the world's books. Imagine my delight when I was rewarded with this page from the Home Furnishing Review, Dec. 1896 -- ta da!


      Turns out that this little glass jar was a precursor to the thermos (which was not manufactured for home use until 1904 - see Dewar ).

      The Keystone Coffee Jar was patented and manufactured by C.H. Stadelman of Pittsburgh, PA.

      (Pittsburgh Patentees List) (Pennsylavania is the Keystone state.)

      Designed to transport already-brewed liquid coffee in a lunch pail, the jar would have had a slide-on metal plate that fit on the raised bars along the bottom of the front and back, leaving a small air space. Then the jar could be heated on a burner, and one could then enjoy a hot cup of coffee.



      Here's a complete Keystone Coffee Jar for sale on ebay for $299 (as of 3-12-13).



      Mystery solved, right? These tradecards come from the same time period, same city, but a different company. Perhaps a symbiotic relationship?




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      Aloha! Video of Bottle Digging in Hawaii with Mike Polak and Brent & Blake Cousins

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      Mike Polak, bottle collecting expert, columnist, and author of the Antique Trader Bottles Price Guide, recently went to Hawaii to dig for bottles. Watch this fun video that shows Mike digging with Brent and Blake Cousins.



      Newsletter readers may need to click through to the website to watch the video. LINK

      Now available in E-BOOK -- (info)

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      Last fall Mike became a regular columnist for the Antique Trader. Here's my post about that great bottle hobby news.

      And in August I had posted links to Mike's articles about bottle digging in Hawaii that he had published in the Antique Trader. Here's that post:

      Aloha! Collecting Bottles from Hawaii.

      antique bottles
      Assortment of various bottles found in one day’s dig; the bottles are circa 1880s-1910 with a total approximate value of $1,700-$2,500.

      Aloha! Check out Mike Polak's article about collecting bottles from Hawaii, in the Antique Trader.

      "...44 bottling companies, with 25 of them located on Oahu. Besides the manufacturing of soda, products also included whiskey, gin, beer, medicines and milk. ..."
      Hawaii bottle hunting brothers
      Hawaiian bottle digger Blake Cousins holds up a full embossed “Konishi & Co.” bottle with misspelled ‘Apothecary Doshumashioj worth about $75. If it was spelled correctly to bottle would be worth $200.


      And there's a 2nd article by Mike Polak, too -- Blake & Brent Cousins: Hawaii’s antique bottle hunting brothersabout bottle digging in Hawaii.

      "...Their persistence paid off when a small rust layer was uncovered, which then exploded into the mother lode of a major bottle pit, producing extremely rare collectibles such as a Honolulu Hollister & Co. squat blob variant and intact Japanese medicines. It took over a week of digging with preventative measures to insure the safety of the crew before the bottle pit was tapped out. “This was a very exciting time,” Blake says. “The adrenalin rush of locating a spot, not knowing what was coming out next, untouched for over 130 years, was like being in a candy store! Over 100 collectible bottles were excavated, not bad for a week’s worth of work!” ..."
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      Antique Bottle Collecting ~ Potpourri for March 2013

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      Just a cool vintage photo of lots of fruit jars.

      Here's this month's potpourri of miscellaneous interesting goodies:


      • Watch video of Martha Stewart chatting with bitters bottles expert and collector Carlyn Ring -- link. (Screen shots below)
      • See photos of Carlyn's Bitters collection on PeachRidge Glass's website.












      For you antique marble collectors: American Bottle Auctions article about Antique Glass Marbles, with lots of candy colored pix.


      To read: Ferdinand Meyer's wonderful journal-style 2013 Baltimore Bottle Show report.



      Ball is making new blue jars. But we know they can never make that famous vintage 'Ball Blue' anymore, since the Hoosier Slide is long gone (read what happened).



      Here's a screen shot from Pinterest showing that decorating and crafting with Mason Jars is super hot right now, and fruit jar collectors are thrilled with the world embracing jars. Anything that raises the awareness of fruit jars helps us, and will hopefully cause more old jars to come up out of basements, and new collectors to join our hobby.



      CRYSTAL SPRING WATER SUPPLY - GINGER BEER - VICTORIA BC -- stoneware bottle.

      Gotta love google, and the hobbyists who publish so much research and info. Nicole posted this bottle on our Facebook page, wanting to know the value, and through the magic of google I quickly found that Mike Polak's Bottle price guide values it at $275.  http://bit.ly/102ErgD 


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      The Tricky Month of April ~ Taxes and Pranks ~ April Fools Day

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      Watch out for those April Fools Day pranks!

      Ole Sir Taxy Waxy will have his due on April 15th!

      April's A Tricky Month!

      "Hold the bottle up to the light; you will see your dreams are always at the bottom." ~ Sir Robert Hutchison

      Cheers to all you Antique Bottle Collectors!





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      The Famous Shirlee MacDonald Bottle Auction of 2007 ~ Realized Prices

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      Shirlee MacDonald

      People still talk about long-time Findlay Club member Shirlee MacDonald's massive bottle and fruit jar collection, and the auctions of her estate that were held the summer of 2007.

      The final auction was cataloged, and online, and the photographs and realized prices are still online.

      Oct 19th, 2007 -- http://www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/14026/page1 -- (prices do not include 15% buyer's premium, sales tax, shipping, etc.)

      Here are some pix from the auction preview that day. This was the last of several auctions, and it is but a tiny fraction of what her collection held.

      [Editor's note: I'm doing some Spring cleaning to the blog's archives, and thought I'd occasionally re-run some posts. Shirlee's living in a senior home in Findlay, and we miss her bunches!]







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      Cobwebby ~ Ferrigan and Pattullo's Cobweb Hall Whiskey Bottle

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      COBWEB HALL


      "Cobwebs are stretched across the walls and the ceiling; gauzy seas of them have veiled every object — the pyramids of ale-casks, and the demijohns at the bars. From every corner and crevice the eye meets them depending by their silken threads; but, notwithstanding their plenitude, it would appear less sacrilegious to the custodian to rob an altar of its plate than to destroy one of the finely-spun nets that have given his establishment its name." [Source]

      Ever feel a little cobwebby? Well, if you drank the original contents of your antique whiskey bottle, you just might have. it's old-timey slang for drunkenness.

      When Peachridge Glass threw down the 'can-you-find-this' gauntlet after the owner posted this bottle, wanting to know more about it, I found an interesting story.

      It is embossed H.F. & BRO / LATE D PATTULLO / 80 DUANE ST NY.

      So, a google searchin' we go.

      1. A variation of this bottle was posted on the antique-bottles.net forum, with the expanded embossing giving me the "F" mystery sir name: H Ferrigan & Bro / Late David Pattullo / 80 Duane St New York
      2. Then we find that David Pattullo opened a bar named Cobweb Hall at that address in 1840
      3. And Hugh Ferrigan then purchased the saloon in 1864. [Sources: NY Times archive pdf and here]


      According to Appetite City: A Culinary History of New York City, eccentric Scotsman Patullo started out as a salesman for Royal Lochnegar Whiskey, then opened his unusually decorated bar in which the rafters of the saloon were famously covered with actual cobwebs.

      Ferrigan, the succeeding owner, kept them in place until an 1885 fire in a whalebone factory above the hall destroyed the ceiling. Apparently the cobwebs were gathered up and displayed in a glass case.

      From the Utica Sunday Tribune / Oct. 31 1886 [link]



      Posted on an interesting blog called Secondat, I found this insurance map of the City of New York, Borough of Manhattan, showing where Cobweb Hall was. (Volume 3. Published by Sanborn Map Co., 11 Broadway, New York. 1904.) 

      According to Secondat's research, there was another fire in a celluloid factory near Cobweb Hall in 1901. 

      It seems the cobwebs had been allowed to reaccumulate, as the NY Times wrote:
      The Times reporter assures his readers that "the well-known landmark called Cobweb Hall, which has been standing since the memory of the oldest inhabitants began,... was not hurt except by having its walls and interior saturated with the thick smoke."  
      Another Times article described the place: "Rusty silverware, ceilings dusty with cobwebs, bar furniture, tables, and chairs of remote date, old prints on the walls, and Pattullo's name [that of the founder] in silver letters, on the front windows of the hostelry." (NYT, November 16, 1902)


      Louis Comfort Tiffany painted this dark image of Duane Street, New York in 1878. [Brooklyn Museum], and it agrees with what descriptions I found of the area at the time.

      I did not find an image of the actual establishment called Cobweb Hall, but if you google-map the address you'll see the spot is now a stretch of wide paved street, just off Broadway.



      That Peculiar Influence

      And finally, all that google searching led me to the Cobweb Hall trivia that: ''from the peculiar influence produced by the liquor is derived the New York slang for drunk — cobwebby''.



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      2013 Bottle Shows on the Findlay Bottle Club's Radar ~ Ohio: Mansfield Urbana Findlay Milford ~ Indiana: Indianapolis and Columbia City

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      The Mansfield Bottle Show is almost here!

      Saturday May 11, 2013
      Make your hotel reservations now!
      Set-up/early bird on Friday May 10 is well worth your $$ & time!
      Go to the Ohio Bottle Club's website for details.

      And remember, the contracts for the Findlay Bottle Show will be "released" at the Mansfield Bottle Show -- and last year we almost sold out that day! 

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      PHOTO BY MICHELE K. / ©AMERICAJR.com  (More photos from the 2012 show here.)

      Just one week after Mansfield is the Columbia Indiana Insulator and Bottle Show



      The 2013 Columbia City, Indiana Insulator, Bottle & Antique Show will be held May 17 & 18 at the Whitley County 4H Fairgrounds, 581 W. Squawbuck Rd, just off US Why 30 and one mile South on Lincoln Way. 

      Friday hours: Dealer set up from Noon to 3:00; show from 3:00 to 7:00, Seminar from 7:00 to 8:00. 

      Saturday: Dealer set up from 6:00 to 9:00 and show from 9:00 to 3:00. 

      First 8 foot table is $28; additional at $20 each. 
      CHUCK DITTMAR 5209 Forest Grove Dr, Fort Wayne, In 46835. Phone: 260-485-7669. 
      Or, GENE HAWKINS:gene.hawkins@mchsi.com

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      Mark your calendar now for the August 2013 Urbana, Ohio bottle show. It's getting bigger and better every year.

      (Last year's show report and pix here.)



      Urbana, Ohio 
      Antique Bottle And Jar Show
      and 
      Urbana Paper and Advertising Show

      Antique bottles, fruit jars, flasks, inks, stoneware, milks, insulators, bitters, advertising and more.

      Saturday, August 17, 2013
      9:30-3:00
      No early admission.

      4-H Building, Champaign County
      Fairgrounds, 384 Park Avenue,
      Urbana, Ohio  43078

      $1.00 Admission Benefits a Junior 4-H Council

      More information on website here.  
      Contact John Bartley, PO Box 53, North Hampton, Ohio  45349



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      And here's a brand new bottle show:

      22 September 2013 (Sunday) Indianapolis, Indiana – The Indianapolis Circle City Antique Bottle Club will host their 1st Annual Show. There is limited space for about 60 tables. Set-up 7:00 am to 9:00 am, Show hours: 9:00 am – 3:00 pm. Indianapolis Marriott East, 7202 East 21st Street, Indianapolis, Indiana 46219. Hotel rates available make sure to mention the Circle City Bottle club for a discount. Flyer will be available soon. Club Sponsored event – Guaranteed to happen. Tables are already going fast. For dealer/show information contact Martin Van Zant, 208 Urban Street, Danville, Indiana, 812.841.9495, MDVanzant@yahoo.com

      And this one that's in it's 4th year:

      23 November 2013 (Saturday) Milford, Ohio – The St. Andrew Antique Bottle Show, St. Andrew Parish Center, 553 Main St, Milford, Ohio, 9:00 am – 1:00 pm, Admission $4. Early admission 7:00 am, $15. Contact: Steve Singer, 1684 Autumn Oak Drive, Batavia, Ohio 45103, 513.732.2793, singersams@yahoo.com


      WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP

      These are just a few bottle shows that our club members attend. 

      The Findlay Bottle Club does not publish a show calendar. We are happy to help promote any bottle collecting hobby events, club shows, auctions, etc. Just email your info to finbotclub@gmail.com

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